Comments on: Post-Classical fun, part 2 http://blog.eighthblackbird.com/2007/12/08/post-classical-fun-part-2/ Adventures (in new music) with eighth blackbird Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:35:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mike jolkovski http://blog.eighthblackbird.com/2007/12/08/post-classical-fun-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1406 mike jolkovski Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:45:27 +0000 http://www.eighthblackbird.com/blog/2007/12/08/post-classical-fun-part-2/#comment-1406 1. Alt-classical! I can't tell you how happy that makes me. The first important development of the post-Stockhausen era! 2. w/r/t/ costumes, remember the words of David Byrne, about the Big Suit in the Stop Making Sense tour: "We decided it was important to show there is a place for theatrical artifice in rock music" or words to that effect. 1. Alt-classical! I can’t tell you how happy that makes me. The first important development of the post-Stockhausen era!

2. w/r/t/ costumes, remember the words of David Byrne, about the Big Suit in the Stop Making Sense tour: “We decided it was important to show there is a place for theatrical artifice in rock music” or words to that effect.

]]> By: Michael J. Maccaferri http://blog.eighthblackbird.com/2007/12/08/post-classical-fun-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1405 Michael J. Maccaferri Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:10:40 +0000 http://www.eighthblackbird.com/blog/2007/12/08/post-classical-fun-part-2/#comment-1405 Thanks for the heads up, DJA! I'm tweaking the code right this moment. Hopefully it will behave for Safari now. Thanks for the heads up, DJA! I’m tweaking the code right this moment. Hopefully it will behave for Safari now.

]]> By: DJA http://blog.eighthblackbird.com/2007/12/08/post-classical-fun-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1404 DJA Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:55:12 +0000 http://www.eighthblackbird.com/blog/2007/12/08/post-classical-fun-part-2/#comment-1404 <i>Greg feels that there is a breadth in the styles and sounds in popular music that doesn’t exist in classical music, and popular music has its own conflict between “art” and “entertainment”. (I feel that he contradicted himself later in his presentation, when he commented that “popular musicians don’t even use a word like ‘art’.”)</i> This may seem like a contradiction, but it's actually an excellent illustration of how thoroughly nonclassical musicians distrust the term "art music," which has been leeched dry by the classical establishment. People in the nonclassical music world still have fights over art vs. entertainment -- they just don't like to use the word "art." (Because seriously, who the hell wants to listen to something called "art rock"?) Instead, the discussion is framed as "indie vs. major," "real punk vs. pop punk," "<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/31/arts/music/31sann.html" rel="nofollow">rockists vs. poptimists</a>," etc. But it's all the same stupid false dichotomy, no matter how you describe it. (BTW, there is a bug in your Antispam text field -- at least in Safari, clicking on the field makes the cursor jump up to the Website" field. The only way to actually get the cursor in the Antispam field is to first click on the Email field and then press Tab. Wha?) Greg feels that there is a breadth in the styles and sounds in popular music that doesn’t exist in classical music, and popular music has its own conflict between “art” and “entertainment”. (I feel that he contradicted himself later in his presentation, when he commented that “popular musicians don’t even use a word like ‘art’.”)

This may seem like a contradiction, but it’s actually an excellent illustration of how thoroughly nonclassical musicians distrust the term “art music,” which has been leeched dry by the classical establishment. People in the nonclassical music world still have fights over art vs. entertainment — they just don’t like to use the word “art.” (Because seriously, who the hell wants to listen to something called “art rock”?) Instead, the discussion is framed as “indie vs. major,” “real punk vs. pop punk,” “rockists vs. poptimists,” etc. But it’s all the same stupid false dichotomy, no matter how you describe it.

(BTW, there is a bug in your Antispam text field — at least in Safari, clicking on the field makes the cursor jump up to the Website” field. The only way to actually get the cursor in the Antispam field is to first click on the Email field and then press Tab. Wha?)

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